This collection is a set of jazz-inflected ghazals tied to epigraphs from Colum McCann's award-winning novel Apeirogon and illuminated with Bill Gingles' abstract expressionist paintings.

Until We Talk is of race, ethnicity, human rights, social justice, hate crime, terror, supremacy, colonialism/post-colonialism/neo-colonialism, the Other. Predominately rooted in the tragic losses in contemporary Israeli and Palestinian families, the poems braid those losses into parallel losses in geo-political race, ethnic, class, and caste conflicts.